the thought that a loving creator would violently destroy anyone not belonging to the jehovah's witness religion including billions of babies seemed just not right.. the fact that you could recieve some "acceptable" blood components but could not donate those same lifesaving yourself seemed strange.
you could recieve a blood fraction but you couldn't give it.. any others you can think of?
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'The fact that you could recieve some "acceptable" blood components but could not donate those same lifesaving yourself seemed strange. You could recieve a blood fraction but YOU couldn't give it'
Reminds me of the honor system. When you take something or benefit from something someone else donates (blood bank), you are expected to replace it with something of like value or more and so the honor system goes.
JWs are takers not givers!
Excellent thread.
how many of the ten commandments... does the wbt$ break everyday?...
the wbt$ has set themselves up as spokesman for god..jesus is out of a job..in watchtower world..the wbt$=god.
all images are forbidden in watchtower world..except the watchtower image... the wbt$ gods name jehovah,is a 14th century catholic translation mistake... the wbt$ doesn`t like jw`s to take sundays off..screw the sabbath... .
Commandment #10.......'Thou shall not covet money anything that belongs to your neighbor.'
The WTBTS more & more is wanting (coveting) the R&F to use money they don't even have: Say for an example encouraging individuals and families to donate via debit cards and as a result add more and more to a family's debt for the sake of making the Society richer and richer. If that is not covet what is ?
Shame on them!
been listening for quite a while to the many conversations found here on this forum.
i'm a good listener as my friends will tell you.. i am a born in jw, inactive for at least 2 years now.
i originally joined this forum to find out what my husband was "up to".
Applehippie: Just answered my own question. I was looking in the wrong year. Looks like there are two articles on weddings. Will read them tomorrow. Later!
been listening for quite a while to the many conversations found here on this forum.
i'm a good listener as my friends will tell you.. i am a born in jw, inactive for at least 2 years now.
i originally joined this forum to find out what my husband was "up to".
Bienvenidos Applehippie:
'that Watchtower was October 15, 2006. Really quite irritated me.'........I too am curious. Can you be more specific as to what article? I just tried looking it up & couldn't find it.
when i was first appointed i did, not me myself, but the body as a whole.
good group of spiritual men.
at first a pleasure to serve with them.
The body of elders of JWs are no more spirit directed than are other spiritual leaders such as the Mormons, Billy Graham or your average Catholic priest.
Sorry, but the congregational BOE and/or the GB do not have a monopoly on the HOLY SPIRIT! They are just full of........... themselves.
when i was first appointed i did, not me myself, but the body as a whole.
good group of spiritual men.
at first a pleasure to serve with them.
Negative! Not spirit directed. Rather directed by pride, jealously, ambition, need for power, need for this & need for that and at times directed by the whim of the wives of the BOE. Absolutley!
I see it happening that way right now.
Good question Pontoon.
just curious..
Page 110 has a picture of the 9 members of the GB as of the 2009 printing. Since then 2 have kicked the bucket.
I just noticed an interesting point made about the GB on that same page. The last paragraph on that page makes a contradictory statement. It says in part.....'Its members (the GB) do not regard themselves as the leaders of Jehovah's people'. Yet time and time again in the Watchtower Study articles the GB stress that the R&F follow their lead or direction.
Damn am I confused!
i mentally left the org in march 2010. i stepped down as an elder after my lad got into trouble.
i researched the publications to make myself 'spiritually strong' but it backfired.. i was in mental and emotional turmoil, still on fs, the platform and meetings etc.
i had to force myself to conform to ever failing jw doctrine.. i announced to my family that i was not going back to meetings in august 2010 after the 'overlapping' joke of 'new light'.. i told the elders not to call.
I can relate to soo much that is being said on this thread. Sounds like many of you have served or are still serving in responsible positions.
Myself: My journey (if I can help it) of fading from the 'truth' is going to be a long one due to loved ones & family ties. But like Mr. Falcon says, this forum is also a big + in helping me cope. Thank you all!
P.S.: I sure would like to hear more from some of the 'old timers' on this forum. Please don't fade or tire!
malawi savage betrayal by watchtower?
today i uploaded a new article presenting information about why jehovahs witnesses in malawi suffered brutal persecution compared to what watchtowers top leadership was doing at the exact same time.
the article is titled malawi savage betrayal by watchtower?
B-A-S-T-A-R-D-S!!!
i'm wondering whether hlc members have "report interesting cases to the society" as part of their duties.. there is a typical jw chain email going around right now about a blood doctrine victim in kansas named shay brooks.
the email is written in such borg writing department style that i suspect it wasn't started by an actual friend of the victim's family but rather by writers at bethel, who then leak the story out into the email grapevine of jws, letting it take on a life of its own.. a little digging confirms that a 13 year old boy by the name of shay brooks died in january in wichita, ks, usa, and the online obituary comments show that he was indeed a jw kid who "died faithful" to the borg.. but there are comments in the circulating email that make me suspicious about the veracity of the details surrounding this poor kid's experience.
one thing it says is that he went to the hospital with a nosebleed and was diagnosed with "the kind of leukemia that only gives you a matter of days.
'Any Former HLC people here? Or know of any personlly?'
I know a number of brothers who serve and have served on the HLC. For the most part they are personable and have (I would say) good bedside manners as anyone visiting patients in a hospital should have. But to qualify to handle life threatening medical situations/emergencies on behalf of another related to blood.....I doubt it!
Most HLCs have little or no schooling in the medical field. HLCs I know are either 'widget' salesmen, unemployed/retired with nothing else to do, construction workers, in the janitorial field etc, etc, etc.
What qualifies you to be an HLC member? You need to be an Elder and available.......Thats' it!
I wonder what the brothers' expertise is/are in the secular world who handled Shay Brooks' life threatening situation?
This is indeed sad if the above e-mail account is true!
